The King Follett Discourse: true or false? Part Four

Universe Eternity

In part three on the Galaxy Eternity, I spent an inordinate amount of time talking about the universe having no beginning and no end. That the universe sits out there, never ending, uncreated light and intelligence, and matter. That God the Father and his Son Jesus Christ are able to take portions of the uncreated universe and create worlds for man to dwell on within the creation arena of the solar system and galaxy. Now in part four I want to try and define the universe in even clearer terms. 


To explain the universe eternity I need to return to the creative process of the galaxy eternity one more time and discuss how the power of faith relates to it all. I will use the Lectures on Faith as I still consider the lectures part of the oracles of God. When he returns, I believe Joseph will put the Lectures on Faith back into the Doctrine and Covenants where they belong, it was a mistake for them to have been taken out..

Even now I carry a copy of the Lectures on Faith with my standard works. It was under the presidency of Heber J. Grant that the changes were made with the proposition of removing the Lecutres on Faith from the Doctrine and Covenants coming from a committee composed of George F. Richards, Anthony W. Ivins, James E. Talmage, Melvin J. Ballard, and Joseph Fielding Smith. What were they thinking? My answer lies in the idea that when you reject Zion, overtime you loose other truths as well. 

(Matthew 13:9 – 13) 9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. 10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. 13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

In the Lectures on Faith we are taught that faith is the principle of action in all intelligent beings. 

(Lectures on Faith, 1:7 – 10) 7 The author of the epistle to the Hebrews, in the eleventh chapter of that epistle, and first verse, gives the following definition of the word faith: 8 Now faith is the substance [assurance] of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 9 From this we learn, that faith is the assurance which men have of the existence of things which they have not seen; and the principle of action in all intelligent beings. 10 If men were duly to consider themselves, and turn their thoughts and reflections to the operations of their own minds, they would readily discover that it is faith, and faith only, which is the moving cause of all action, in them; that without it, both mind and body would be in a state of inactivity, and all their exertions would cease, both physical and mental.

We are informed that faith works by mental exertion.

(Lectures on Faith, 7:3) 3 … We understand that when a man works by faith he works by mental exertion instead of physical force. It is by words, instead of exerting his physical powers, with which every being works when he works by faith.

Lecture #1 introduces the idea that God the Father exercises faith in his realm in the same way we exercise faith in our realm. God received the power to frame the worlds through the principle of faith This makes sense when we acknowledge the teachings of the King Follett discourse that God, the Father of us all, was once a man like us. As God progressed through multiple probation’s, his faith developed until he acquired perfect faith. Perfect faith which gives him perfect authority over the creative process and not only the creative process but also the power to sustain the worlds he creates. Faith to have all things present before him at all times. the faith to use the great urim and thummin that his throne sits on.

(Lectures on Faith, 1:13 – 17) 13 As we receive by faith, all temporal blessings that we do receive, so we, in like manner, receive by faith all spiritual blessings, that we do receive. But faith is not only the principle of action, but of power, also, in all intelligent beings, whether in heaven, or on earth. Thus says the author of the epistle to the Hebrews. (11:3): 14 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God: so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.15 By this we understand that the principle of power which existed in the bosom of God, by which the worlds were framed, was faith; and that it is by reason of this principle of power existing in the Deity, that all created things exist; so that all things in heaven, on earth, or under the earth exist by reason of faith as it existed in Him. 16 Had it not been for the principle of faith the worlds would never have been framed neither would man have been formed of the dust. It is the principle by which Jehovah works, and through which he exercises power over all temporal as well as eternal things. Take this principle or attribute—for it is an attribute—from the Deity, and he would cease to exist.17 Who cannot see, that if God framed the worlds by faith, that it is by faith that he exercises power over them, and that faith is the principle of power? And that if the principle of power, it must be so in man as well as in the Deity? This is the testimony of all the sacred writers, and the lesson which they have been endeavoring to teach to man.

God and Christ are perfection. They understand the principles and processes of faith to a perfect level and when they speak worlds are created.

(Lectures on Faith, 7:3) 3 …  God  said, Let there be light: and there was light.’

(Lectures on Faith, 1:22) 22 … We here understand, that the sacred writers say, that all these things were done by faith—It was by faith that the worlds were framed—God spake, chaos heard, and worlds came into order, by reason of the faith there was in HIM.

As it is with God so it is with man. When faith is exercised, extraordinary things can take place. Those with faith have power over the elements. We call them miracles, but there are real scientific reasons that can explain every miracle that takes place.

(Lectures on Faith 1:22 – 24) 22 … So with man also—he spake by faith in the name of God, and the sun stood still, the moon obeyed, mountains removed, prisons fell, lions’ mouths were closed, the human heart lost its enmity, fire its violence, armies their power, the sword its terror, and death its dominion; and all this by reason of the faith which was in them. 23 Had it not been for the faith which was in man, they might have spoken to the sun, the moon, the mountains, prisons, lions, the human heart, fire, armies, the sword, or to death in vain! 24 Faith, then, is the first great governing principle which has power, dominion, and authority over all things: by it they exist, by it they are upheld, by it they are changed, or by it they remain, agreeably to the will of God. Without it, there is no power, and without power there could be no creation, nor existence!

Joshua and Elijah are representatives of the angel fathers, of the priesthood order of Enoch, This is their 2nd probation and they have developed faith the size of a mustard seed and can exercise power over the elements.

(Lectures on Faith, 7:3 – 4) 3 … Joshua spake and the great lights which God had created stood still. Elijah commanded, and the heavens were stayed for the space of three years and six months, so that it did not rain: he again commanded and the heavens gave forth rain. All this was done by faith. 4 … Angels move from place to place by virtue of this power—it is by reason of it that they are enabled to descend from heaven to earth; and were it not for the power of faith they never could be ministering spirits to them who should be heirs of salvation, neither could they act as heavenly messengers; for they would be destitute of the power necessary to enable them to do the will of God.

For the new generation children saints of the priesthood order of Melchizedek, this is their 1st probation and are just developing faith, Over time we also will have faith the size of a mustard seed and can do pretty exciting things. 

(Lecture on Faith, 7:3) And the Saviour says: .If you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, say to this mountain, “Remove.” and it will remove; or say to that sycamine tree, “Be ye plucked up, and planted in the midst of the sea” and it shall obey you.’ Faith, then, works by words: and with these its mightiest works have been, and will be performed.

(Matthew 17:20) 20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

Man exercises faith in God, and God who was once a man, embodies perfect Faith, in what? God who is independent from and does not depend on any other being exercises faith in the same manner man does, So does God likewise exercise faith in something? Yes, That is my belief! 

(Lectures on Faith, 2:1 – 2) 1 Having shown in our previous lecture “faith itself—what it is,” we shall proceed to show secondly the object on which it rests. 2 We here observe that God is the only supreme governor, and independent being, in whom all fulness and perfection dwells; who is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient; without beginning of days or end of life; and that in him every good gift, and every good principle dwells; and that he is the Father of lights: In him the principle of faith dwells independently; and he is the object in whom the faith of all other rational and accountable beings centers, for life and salvation.

The Holy Spirit

It is my belief that the Holy Spirit is the substance that runs through the very fiber of the never ending universe and is the reason the principle of faith is active. The Holy Spirit is the power that connects all the created galaxies that span the created as well as the uncreated universe. The Holy Spirit is in all things, and through all things both created and uncreated. The Holy spirit maintains the greatest stars as well as sustains life in a new born baby.

The Holy Spirit is the power through which God’s faith works. The Holy Spirit is the power God taps into to create the worlds and galaxies. The Holy Spirit is the glue that holds it all together. The Holy Spirit permeates every molecule and atom. The Holy Spirit is light and truth. The universe is full of light and intelligence, molecule and atom and the Holy spirit permeates it all, without ending. So, when the principle of faith is applied, the light and intelligence of spirit, and the molecules and atoms of matter respond. Do you see the connection? When God speaks, matter responds because the Holy Spirit is an integral part of the matter. The intelligence of man is organized and the worlds created by God because of the Holy Spirit. 

The Holy Spirit is the Universe

The Holy Spirit is the common Link of all the Galaxies

The Holy Spirit is the Power and Glory of all the Galaxies

The Holy Spirit is the Power, Glory and fullness of God

The Holy Spirit is what makes God: Omniscient, Omnipresent and Omnipotent

Lecture #5

Where do I get these outlandish ideas? I first heard about the idea of there of being one universal power above all the Gods from a good friend. Then I came across the idea in some of the Gnostic texts, especially in ‘The Apocrython of John’, it is extremely interesting, but very hard reading. So, when this concept was verified in Lecture #5 I was very excited. Lets take a look at it.

In Lecture #5 we are taught that there are two personages who govern all creation, They are God the Father and his Son Jesus Christ. They are the two beings that exist in every galaxy that is in the universe. Lets be clear on this, there are billions upon billions of galaxy eternities all going on at the same time with two personages over each of them. 

(Lecture on Faith #5) 2 There are two personages who constitute the great, matchless, governing and supreme power over all things—by whom all things were created and made, that are created and made, whether visible or invisible: whether in heaven, on earth, or in the earth, under the earth, or throughout the immensity of space—They are the Father and the Son:

(D&C 88:40 – 41) 40 For intelligence cleaveth unto intelligence; wisdom receiveth wisdom; truth embraceth truth; virtue loveth virtue; light cleaveth unto light; mercy hath compassion on mercy and claimeth her own; justice continueth its course and claimeth its own; judgment goeth before the face of him who sitteth upon the throne and governeth and executeth all things. 41 He comprehendeth all things, and all things are before him, and all things are round about him; and he is above all things, and in all things, and is through all things, and is round about all things; and all things are by him, and of him, even God, forever and ever.

What is really weird, is that Lecture #5 then tells us that there are three that created all things. Why do we need three when it sounds like two will do just fine? The Lecture tells us that when the third is added, you then have a Godhead. Therefore, without the third you do not have a Godhead. Two are the governing body over the individual galaxies, the third is through them all, making each of them into a Godhead. It is the Godhead that perfection lies. It is in the Godhead that God is God. 

(Lecture on Faith #5) and these three are one, or in other words, these three constitute the great, matchless, governing, and supreme power over all things; by whom all things were created and made, that were created and made: and these three constitute the Godhead and are one:

In Lecture #2 Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon quotes Paul in explaining this doctrine. Gods eternal power lies in his Godhead. It is the third member that make God a Godhead. It is in the Godhead that God has all power.

(Lectures on Faith, 2:4) 4 We do not mean those evidences which are manifested by the works of creation, which we daily behold with our natural eyes: we are sensible, that after a revelation of Jesus Christ, the works of creation, throughout their vast forms and varieties, clearly exhibit his eternal power and Godhead. Romans 1:20: For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made: even his eternal power and Godhead. But we mean those evidences by which the first thoughts were suggested to the minds of men that there was a God who created all things.

God teaches us this same doctrine in section 88, referring to the power of the Godhead as the light of Christ, which light is the Holy Spirit. This light is in all things, gives life to all things, and the power by which all things are governed. The Holy Spirit is that light. The Holy Spirit is the light by which God organized and governs all his creations.

(D&C 88:7 – 13) 7 Which truth shineth. This is the light of Christ. As also he is in the sun, and the light of the sun, and the power thereof by which it was made. 8 As also he is in the moon, and is the light of the moon, and the power thereof by which it was made; 9 As also the light of the stars, and the power thereof by which they were made; 10 And the earth also, and the power thereof, even the earth upon which you stand. 11 And the light which shineth, which giveth you light, is through him who enlighteneth your eyes, which is the same light that quickeneth your understandings; 12 Which light proceedeth forth from the presence of God to fill the immensity of space—13 The light which is in all things, which giveth life to all things, which is the law by which all things are governed, even the power of God who sitteth upon his throne, who is in the bosom of eternity, who is in the midst of all things.

We are taught the Holy Spirit testifies of God and the Son, which is appropriate, but lecture #5 informs us that the Holy Spirit is quite a bit more than that. The lecture continues by teaching us that the Holy Spirit is the very mind of God. That God the Father and his Son share that mind together. The Holy Spirit is the force that binds the mind of the two beings together and makes them a Godhead. The Holy Spirit is an outside source of power, who fills God, who was once a man like us, with power, glory, wisdom, love, perfection. The Holy Spirit in fact becomes the very mind of God. God in turn shares this fullness of mind and perfection and glory with the Son, and it is his desire to share his fullness with all his seed, with all his family.

(Lectures on Faith 5:2) 2 … And he being the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth, and having overcome, received a fulness of the glory of the Father—possessing the same mind with the Father, which mind is the Holy Spirit, that bears record of the Father and the Son, and these three are one

The Holy Spirit is a totally different source of power from God. The Holy Spirit is a power source that originates outside of God, goes through God to Christ and then to man. The Holy Spirit is not dependent on God, God is dependent on the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not created by God, God is created by the Holy Spirit. How can I say that? Because God was once a man like we are now! It is because of the King Follett discourse that we know this important doctrine.

The Holy spirit is the common mind of not only our God and our Christ in our Milky Way galaxy eternity but also the mind of God the Father and his Christ in our neighboring Andromeda Galaxy as well as the mind of all God the Fathers and Saviors in all the billions of galaxies that exist out there in the universe eternity. The Holy Spirit exists outside of God the Father and flows through him to us. The Holy Spirit is the common force of all Gods and makes them all into Godheads. 

Not only is the Holy Spirit the mind of God, the Holy Spirit is also the glory, power, wisdom and fullness of God the Father. God the Father, a created being, who was once a man like us, became perfect and a worthy vessel for the Holy Spirit to dwell in and express its fullness in. The Holy Spirit is the entity in which God the Father exercises faith when he creates the heavens and the earths. The Holy Spirit is the entity from which God the Father upholds all his creations in their orbits. Through whom all Gods maintains control and harmony within their galaxies. 

(Lectures on Faith, 5:2) 2 … The Father and the Son possessing the same mind, the same wisdom, glory, power and fulness: Filling all in all—the Son being filled with the fulness of the Mind, glory and power, or, in other words, the Spirit, glory and power of the Father—possessing all knowledge and glory, and the same kingdom.

Why does faith work? How does faith work. Why do the elements respond to the word of God. It is because the Holy Spirit is within everything. The elements respond to the faith exercised by God in the Holy Spirit which is infused in all things. God has perfect faith in the Holy Spirit which is inside everything. So there is a direct connection between God and the light, intelligence. There is a direct communication between God and the universe, which is sustained by the Holy Spirit.

God is the Perfect Conduit for the Holy Spirit

The Holy Spirit is described as the record of heaven, who quickens all things, who makes all things alive. The Holy Spirit is the source of life and power of the Universe. The Holy Spirit hath all power, wisdom, mercy, truth etc. The Holy Spirit is not a personage and does not have human form.

(Moses 6:61) 61 Therefore it is given to abide in you; the record of heaven; the Comforter; the peaceable things of immortal glory; the truth of all things; that which quickeneth all things, which maketh alive all things; that which knoweth all things, and hath all power according to wisdom, mercy, truth, justice, and judgment.

The Holy Spirit works through personages, through created beings: Personages or created beings are the temples of the Holy Spirit. The seed of God are beings who are created to become the temple of the Holy Spirit. God was once a man like us and who has attained to that perfect temple. God is perfection. God is the perfect temple of the Holy Spirit which dwells in Him and in us.

(1 Corinthians 6:19 – 20) 19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.

Ephesians emphasizes the doctrine that we are the temple of God because of the Holy Spirit. We are the habitation of God through the Holy Spirit.

(Ephesians 2:21 – 22) 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

The elements are the tabernacle or the temples of the Holy Spirit. That’s why the spirit and element perfectly connected is the perfect temple. That is why Joseph Smith described God as having flesh and bones, who as a perfect man is the perfect temple for the Holy Spirit, thus attaining perfect joy, perfect power, perfect intelligence, etc. etc. God is perfection! God is the perfect man to which the seed of God, the offspring of God will also attain.

(D&C 93:33 – 36) 33 For man is spirit. The elements are eternal, and spirit and element, inseparably connected, receive a fulness of joy; 34 And when separated, man cannot receive a fulness of joy. 35 The elements are the tabernacle of God; yea, man is the tabernacle of God, even temples; and whatsoever temple is defiled, God shall destroy that temple. 36 The glory of God is intelligence, or, in other words, light and truth.

The Spirit of God

All power of the Holy Spirit flows through God the Father to us and is called the spirit of God. Every blessing that we receive come through God the Father, that’s why we worship him and call him father. But the original source of God’s power comes from the Holy Spirit.

(Alma 9:21) 21 Having been visited by the Spirit of God; having conversed with angels, and having been spoken unto by the voice of the Lord; and having the spirit of prophecy, and the spirit of revelation, and also many gifts, the gift of speaking with tongues, and the gift of preaching, and the gift of the Holy Ghost, and the gift of translation;

It is through the Holy Spirit that we can be the temple of God. It is through the Holy Spirit that God can dwell with in us. God is a personage and does not and cannot dwell within us, except through the instrumentality of the Holy Spirit.

(1 Corinthians 3:16 – 17) 16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

(2 Corinthians 6:16 – 18) 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

(Alma 7:21 – 22) 21 And he doth not dwell in unholy temples; neither can filthiness or anything which is unclean be received into the kingdom of God; therefore I say unto you the time shall come, yea, and it shall be at the last day, that he who is filthy shall remain in his filthiness. 22 And now my beloved brethren, I have said these things unto you that I might awaken you to a sense of your duty to God, that ye may walk blameless before him, that ye may walk after the holy order of God, after which ye have been received.

(D&C 93:35:39) 35 The elements are the tabernacle of God; yea, man is the tabernacle of God, even temples; and whatsoever temple is defiled, God shall destroy that temple. 36 The glory of God is intelligence, or, in other words, light and truth. 37 Light and truth forsake that evil one. 38 Every spirit of man was innocent in the beginning; and God having redeemed man from the fall, men became again, in their infant state, innocent before God. 39 And that wicked one cometh and taketh away light and truth, through disobedience, from the children of men, and because of the tradition of their fathers.

The Spirit of Christ

When the power of the Holy Spirit flows through God and then through Christ it is called the spirit of Christ. The spirit of Christ is the same as the light of Christ described in section 88 as quoted and discussed above.

(Moroni 7:16) 16 For behold, the Spirit of Christ is given to every man, that he may know good from evil; wherefore, I show unto you the way to judge; for every thing which inviteth to do good, and to persuade to believe in Christ, is sent forth by the power and gift of Christ; wherefore ye may know with a perfect knowledge it is of God.

(1 Peter 1:11) 11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

The Baptism of Fire

We experience the Holy Spirit when we receive the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost.

(D&C 39:6) 6 And this is my gospel—repentance and baptism by water, and then cometh the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost, even the Comforter, which showeth all things and teacheth the peaceable things of the kingdom.

We can then have the constant companionship of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit will flow unto us and fill us with wisdom and power, like God the Father and Jesus Christ. The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is still through the conduit of the Father and the Son. We do not receive the fullness of the Holy Spirit until we actually become God. When we become a God the fullness of the Spirit comes to us undiluted, if you will. But we start out with the baptism of fire and then through process of the different probation’s from the children saints, to the angel fathers to the office of Adam and Christ we become a fitting and perfect tabernacle for the fullness of the Holy Spirit to dwell.

(D&C 121:46) 46 The Holy Ghost shall be thy constant companion, and thy scepter an unchanging scepter of righteousness and truth; and thy dominion shall be an everlasting dominion, and without compulsory means it shall flow unto thee forever and ever.

Sons of Perdition

Lets take another look at the process of how a person becomes a son of perdition. Isn’t it interesting that you can sin against our Savior Jesus Christ, you can take his name in vain and still receive a glory? You can belittle God the Father and worship other Gods and still receive a glory? But blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven. If you do you will not receive a kingdom of glory but you will be cast into a lake of fire and brimstone with Satan and his angels, for you will be a son of perdition. The reason must lie in the thought that when you sin against the Holy Spirit you are fighting against the very essence of life, the very core of being, the very root of the universe. It’s one thing not to have the capability to receive and understand truth, such a being will receive a terrestrial or telestial glory. But a son of perdition is trying to end life itself by destroying the very meaning and structure of the universe. 

(Matthew 12:31 – 32) 31 ¶ Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

(Alma 39:5 – 6) 5 Know ye not, my son, that these things are an abomination in the sight of the Lord; yea, most abominable above all sins save it be the shedding of innocent blood or denying the Holy Ghost? 6 For behold, if ye deny the Holy Ghost when it once has had place in you, and ye know that ye deny it, behold, this is a sin which is unpardonable; yea, and whosoever murdereth against the light and knowledge of God, it is not easy for him to obtain forgiveness; yea, I say unto you, my son, that it is not easy for him to obtain a forgiveness.

(Mark 3:28 – 29) 28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: 29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

A son of perdition has beheld all of God’s glory and rejected it. This process takes place in the pre-existence not on the earth, for  no man can behold all the glory of God and remain on the earth. 

(Moses 1:5) 5 Wherefore, no man can behold all my works, except he behold all my glory; and no man can behold all my glory, and afterwards remain in the flesh on the earth.

(King Follett Discourse) All sins shall be forgiven, except the sin against the Holy Ghost; for Jesus will save all except the sons of perdition. What must a man do to commit the unpardonable sin? He must receive the Holy Ghost, have the heavens opened unto him, and know God, and then sin against him. After a man has sinned against the Holy Ghost, there is no repentance for him. He has got to say that the sun does not shine while he sees it; he has got to deny Jesus Christ when the heavens have been opened unto him, and to deny the plan of salvation with his eyes open to the truth of it.

 Quantum Physics

I was blown away the other day when my friend sends me this youtube video about quantum physics. I’m listening along and the scientists are talking about the underlying essence of universe and I see all those thoughts about the Holy Spirit come to life in quantum physics. The particles is the physical created solar systems and galaxies and the waves are the underlying sustaining motion of all creation. The waves he is talking about surely is the Holy Spirit. The particles is God seeing the waves in creation. The Holy Spirit is in all things and through all things and God uses the Holy Spirit to create. 

The double slit experiment. where if no one is looking the patterns are completely random, but if someone is looking the pattern is set. We know that God the Father has all time before him, therefore creation is not random. The created Galaxies do exist constantly, continuously because God is always looking at them. But the waves of the Holy Spirit continues to exist also. The Holy Spirit sustains all life and all creation. I’m not giving you a very complete explanation, that’s why I’m including the video’s in this blog for you to contemplate.

Quantum Physics describes the living universe and is what I equate with the Holy Spirit that is in all things and through all things in the universe created and uncreated. John Hagelin was the scientist that made the most sense to me, his explanation tied quantum physics into my universe model. So I found these two videos where John Hagelin can reiterate and expand on his ideas. 

The Mysteries

Thank you so much for taking the time to read my four blogs on the King Follett discourse: true or false. I certainly believe that the discourse teach us truth concerning God the Father. The teachings of Joseph Smith in the King Follett discourse and Lectures on Faith bring the oracles (Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price) of God to life for me. This has been a very enjoyable experience for me. No matter if anyone else in the world reads this or not, it has be wonderful for me. Keep studying, keep pondering the mysteries. Don’t be timid, Don’t be afraid. Whether you agree with me or not. 

I believe that the King Follett discourse and the lectures on faith teach us truth about God on a conceptual level, they give us just the ideas of some of the mysteries of God. To fully know the mysteries of God will take Joseph Smith returning with the priesthood of God, It will take being baptized by water and the spirit. It will take living the law of consecration. It will take the establishment of Zion. None of which can take place without the return of Joseph Smith, for he has the keys of dispensation of the fullness of times and no one else. We cannot do any of these things without him. It is a lost cause without the prophet Joseph Smith. 

(Matthew 13:11) 11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

(Romans 16:25 – 27) 25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, 26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: 27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.

(1 Corinthians 2:7) 7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

(1 Colossians 1:25 – 27) 25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; 26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: 27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

(1 Colossians 2:2 – 3) 2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

(1 Timothy 3:16) 16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

(1 Nephi 10:18 – 19) 18 For he is the same yesterday, to-day, and forever; and the way is prepared for all men from the foundation of the world, if it so be that they repent and come unto him. 19 For he that diligently seeketh shall find; and the mysteries of God shall be unfolded unto them, by the power of the Holy Ghost, as well in these times as in times of old, and as well in times of old as in times to come; wherefore, the course of the Lord is one eternal round.

(D&C 6:7) 7 Seek not for riches but for wisdom, and behold, the mysteries of God shall be unfolded unto you, and then shall you be made rich. Behold, he that hath eternal life is rich.

(D&C 20:7) 7 For I have given him the keys of the mysteries, and the revelations which are sealed, until I shall appoint unto them another in his stead.

(D&C 42:61) 61 If thou shalt ask, thou shalt receive revelation upon revelation, knowledge upon knowledge, that thou mayest know the mysteries and peaceable things—that which bringeth joy, that which bringeth life eternal.

(D&C 63:23) 23 But unto him that keepeth my commandments I will give the mysteries of my kingdom, and the same shall be in him a well of living water, springing up unto everlasting life.

(D&C 64:5) 5 And the keys of the mysteries of the kingdom shall not be taken from my servant Joseph Smith, Jun., through the means I have appointed, while he liveth, inasmuch as he obeyeth mine ordinances.

(D&C 76:5 – 10) 5 For thus saith the Lord—I, the Lord, am merciful and gracious unto those who fear me, and delight to honor those who serve me in righteousness and in truth unto the end. 6 Great shall be their reward and eternal shall be their glory. 7 And to them will I reveal all mysteries, yea, all the hidden mysteries of my kingdom from days of old, and for ages to come, will I make known unto them the good pleasure of my will concerning all things pertaining to my kingdom. 8 Yea, even the wonders of eternity shall they know, and things to come will I show them, even the things of many generations. 9 And their wisdom shall be great, and their understanding reach to heaven; and before them the wisdom of the wise shall perish, and the understanding of the prudent shall come to naught. 10 For by my Spirit will I enlighten them, and by my power will I make known unto them the secrets of my will—yea, even those things which eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor yet entered into the heart of man.

(D&C 97:5 -6) 5 And I will bless him with a multiplicity of blessings, in expounding all scriptures and mysteries to the edification of the school, and of the church in Zion. 6 And to the residue of the school, I, the Lord, am willing to show mercy; nevertheless, there are those that must needs be chastened, and their works shall be made known.

(D&C 107:18 – 19) 18 The power and authority of the higher, or Melchizedek Priesthood, is to hold the keys of all the spiritual blessings of the church—19 To have the privilege of receiving the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, to have the heavens opened unto them, to commune with the general assembly and church of the Firstborn, and to enjoy the communion and presence of God the Father, and Jesus the mediator of the new covenant.

To me it is one thing to have an idea of what the mysteries are and another thing to actually understand them. I hope in these blogs to have given, at least for myself some idea, some sort of understanding, some basic concept of the mystery of God as contained in the King Follett discourse, the Lectures on Faith and the standard works. But to truly understand the mysteries and experience them it will take baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost which comes to those who are given the holy priesthood of God and have remained true and faithful to the will of God. May we all come to know the mysteries of God when Joseph Smith returns and the great and marvelous work begins at the third watch. When the stone is cut out without hands and fills the whole earth.






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